Posted by Drakkhen (66-178-145-222.dsl.rio.com | 66.178.145.222) on July 30, 2002 at 23:34:00:
In Reply to: My Two Cents: The State of Things in the Translation Scene posted by Taskforce on July 30, 2002 at 22:55:39:
> I'd like to talk about the state of things in the
> translation scene and especially this DeJaP situation.
>
> You know, I've said several places that I think
> accepting donations of money for hard drive recovery
> was an acceptable thing. However, DeJaP has mentioned
> in its post that this is NO LONGER just accepting
> money for a hard drive recovery. Now it is also
> accepting Hardware as well. And not for that purpose.
>
> This is IMHO completely and utterly WRONG! We aren't
> talking about something they need so they can get back
> lost work. We are now talking about PC parts for
> a system that is "a backup". And I've read places that
> they've even accepted more than just stuff for the
> backup unit.
>
> This is now a business. They can pretend all they
> want, but pretending doesn't make it anything other
> than what it is. These boys better know how to handle
> this with the IRS too, because this IS profit. The
> IRS will REAM their ass if they try to claim it as
> anything else.
>
> I'm sorry, I think this is now wrong. And I'll
> broadcast that to the ends of the earth not that it
> will do any good. Yes, as I said, I'm not for or
> against the donations to fix the PC. But those
> donations only. And letting DF handle any money that
> is left (assuming their is any) is also WRONG. That
> money should be split back up among the highest
> donators and given back.
>
> Heh, just as an example. I'm using a TNT2 M64 32MB and
> my 8x CD Writer just went out. I bought a 32x but
> it is a piece of junk. You don't see me asking
> for donations to replace these. I'll live with the
> TNT2 and the crappy CD Writer that I bought to replace
> it cause it is all *I* could afford.
>
> As for the other scene in general. I can say that
> I am actually as happy with certain individuals in
> the scene as I ever was. There are those of you that
> I get along quite well with. There are those of you
> that I don't get along with quite so well and still
> admire your work. Then there are those of you that I
> do neither. Boy does it seem that more and move are
> sliding into the second and third catagory now though.
> Which is starting to make the scene to me not quite
> so fun anymore. Between that and I myself getting
> myself into things I shouldn't. (I'll leave that
> comment to your imagination.) The scene is quickly
> becoming as much a chore for me as it is a fun thing.
>
> With that said though, there are still a LOT of
> individuals that make this fun enough for me to stick
> around. Wildbill, Akujin, Bongo`, Laxidman, Drakkhen,
> Klarth and a few others that I really enjoy hanging
> out with and talking to and even collaborating on
> projects with.
>
> So, in summery, I think the DeJaP situation has gone
> further than it should, and is hurting the scene and
> it's people. I myself and not nearly enjoying things
> as much as I once was but am enjoying them enough to
> still stick around. I just hope the scene improves
> instead of sliding even further downhill.
>
> And to those of you that I still enjoy talking with
> and working with (there are more than I mentioned),
> thanks for making this fun enough to keep me going.
> You deserve the thanks.
>
> -Taskforce
Well said